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Сообщение КонстантинК » 25 ноя 2007 22:16

valent, Лучше поставьте двойники, они есть в продаже длинные даже очень. Легко ставятся. Рыбу берет хорошо и портить твистер не нужно обрезанием. :)
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Сообщение Xrupkiy » 25 ноя 2007 23:38

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Сообщение КонстантинК » 26 ноя 2007 10:48

Xrupkiy, Купил готовые у Белугина или сам оснащал???. У меня такие уже готовые. Работают по окуню отлично уже проверено, перехлестов нет.
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Сообщение Xrupkiy » 26 ноя 2007 13:18

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Сообщение primv » 26 ноя 2007 14:57

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Сообщение Xrupkiy » 26 ноя 2007 15:01

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Сообщение Gleb » 27 ноя 2007 11:16

valent,
мне думается, что проблема с переворачиванием оснастки не связана с грузилом, а связана с тем как насажен твистер на крючок (на фото). В твое случае использован оффсетный кючок, который должен быть насажен определенным способом: http://www.gonefishing.ru/index.php?type=page&id=64
При таком положении центр тяжести крючка будет расположен снизу твистера и в воде такая оснастка будет занимать приятное для тебя положение :), без всяких переворачиваний. Можно на свободное цевье подвесить пару дробин для придания большей стабилизации в "полете" :) . К слову, некоторые производители производят оффсетники с готовой нижней подгрузкой. Я такие использую для оснастки резиной без головного грузила со сбирулино. По поводу крепления твистеров на двойнике вот есть парочку вариантов: http://misteria.koptevo.net/modules.php ... 10eHQuaHRt
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Сообщение Xrupkiy » 27 ноя 2007 14:03

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Сообщение кама » 27 ноя 2007 18:02

Двойниками пользуюсь, где есть хоть немного коряг. Этот сезон провел в заливе, где ни коряжки - каждая приманка с тройником была.
Все же 2 крючка хорошо, а 3 лучше :) .
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Сообщение MigeljM » 27 ноя 2007 18:48

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Сообщение jusis-fedor » 27 ноя 2007 19:12

MigeljM, тройник вставляется чуть сложней чем двойник ,два крюка сбоку один или сверху или снизу
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Сообщение КонстантинК » 27 ноя 2007 23:03

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Сообщение Xrupkiy » 28 ноя 2007 01:13

Тройником твистер снаряжаю так. Так же и хвосты. Сходов практически не бывает.
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Сообщение КонстантинК » 28 ноя 2007 15:31

valent, просто сразу делаеш 2 оборота катушкой ,я это называю злой ступенькой, по увеличению времени опускания можно делать один и ли страгивать только удилищем и подпрыгивая , проходить участок где 7-9 сек. Оптимальным считаю время опускания от 2 до 4 сек.
Xrupkiy, рекомендую зажимать кембриком тройник. Он просто может во время вываживания соскочить.
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Сообщение Xrupkiy » 28 ноя 2007 15:45

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Сообщение Gleb » 28 ноя 2007 21:41

КонстантинК,
еще раз внимательно рассмотрел фотку и сообщение, дома нашел подходящую голову с застежкой и оффсетник, покрутил в руках на предмет возможных положений. Остаюсь пока на своих позициях. Основания для этого следующие:
1) сам использовал аналогичные головы с еще более длинными и свободными застежками. В памяти не осталось воспоминаний о переворачиваниях крючка (а гемор имеет свойство впечатываться в сознание мгновенно и надолго :) ), были перехлесты за леску;
2) у Хрупкого на фотке застежки с еще бОльшим свободным ходом, нежели у обсуждаемой, однако с его стороны в ходе обсуждения не последовало озвучки указанной проблемы (монтаж твистера соответствует традиционному для оффсетников), что может служить косвенным подтверждением по излженному в п.1.
Мое разыгравшееся вооброжение рисует следующую картину: при монтаже как на фотке, при забросе крючок будет сдвигаться к голове (и это естественно и ненаказуемо). А вот торчащий поддев крючка, возвышаясь над твистером, представляет собой плечо, которое стремится провернуть неустойчивую конструкцию в продольной оси (другое плечо сам твистер, лежащий ниже продольной оси вращения, идущей через колечко крючка), что и прводит к перевороту уже на стадии заброса. При классическом монтаже оффсетника твистер находится на этой оси, уравновешивая эти моменты вращения, распределяя практически всю массу крючка с твистером на этой оси.
Проверить это несложно, тем паче, что Валент готов к экпериментам, и это правильно, ибо как любил говАривать классик: "практика - критерий истины" :)
Valent, по поводу доп. огрузки оффсетника - вряд ли пара граммовых дробин внесет сильный диссонанс в игру оснастки с весом головы около 15гр. Опять-таки это можно посмотреть в воде возле берега и сделать выводы.
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Сообщение КонстантинК » 29 ноя 2007 00:32

Gleb, вариант исправления прост. На фото крюк завис на верхней части крепежа.Это неоспоримо и очевидно. Пользуюсь и тем что на фото и тем что у хрупкого.Ни там ни там таких вариантов , не было ни разу. Так вот если сделать так чтобы (как я и предложил ) сузить этот промежуток крючек перестанет выскакивать и переворачиваться, ибо угол поворота этого не позволит.Валент слово за тобой. :)
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Сообщение valent » 29 ноя 2007 09:53

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Сообщение кама » 29 ноя 2007 09:57

Xrupkiy, Раньше, зимами искусствовал:
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Сообщение КонстантинК » 29 ноя 2007 11:35

кама, Ну ты пикасо. :D
Вот обещаные фото вчера все написал и уже грузил,а портал БАЦ :x и приходите позже. Я возился с фотками до часу ночи и на тебе подарок -иди спать. :D
Ну вот на скорую руку состряпал. В чем приимущество этого крюка. Его можно и нужно легко менять на воблерах не портя себе ногти, и так же приложив голову , можно найти всевозможные варианты монтажа для резины. :)
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Сообщение SPIN » 29 ноя 2007 15:58

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Сообщение кама » 29 ноя 2007 19:14

КонстантинК, Пальцы закрывают... Я так понял, что второе цевье имеет два крюка.
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Пред.След.


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